The Great Muppet Debate: Which One Reigns Supreme?
The principal focus of this podcast episode is the discussion surrounding the five most exemplary Muppets, a topic that invites both fervent debate and nostalgic reflection. In our spirited dialogue, we traverse the myriad characteristics that define these beloved characters, delving into their cultural significance and the unique attributes that elevate them to iconic status. Each sibling presents their selections with passionate rationale, highlighting the nuances of Muppet lore while occasionally veering into humorous anecdotes and personal reflections. The discourse is enriched by moments of contention, as we grapple with differing opinions on the merits of each chosen Muppet, revealing the deep-seated emotions and memories that these characters evoke. Ultimately, our exploration serves not only as an examination of Muppet mythology but also as a testament to the enduring legacy of Jim Henson's creations in popular culture.
In an episode characterized by a delightful amalgamation of nostalgia and humor, the Murphy siblings embark on an exploration of their favorite Muppets, ultimately aiming to rank the best among them. Each sibling showcases their top five selections, revealing a plethora of fond memories linked to these cherished characters. The discussion delves into the whimsical world of the Muppets, touching upon the criteria that define a Muppet, while also revealing personal anecdotes that underscore the influence these characters have had on their lives. The siblings' banter oscillates between playful jabs and heartfelt admiration, as they reflect on the qualities that make each of their choices special. This episode serves not only as an entertaining debate but also as a heartfelt reminder of the joy and laughter that the Muppets have consistently provided across generations.
Takeaways:
- In this episode, we engage in a lighthearted debate regarding the best Muppet, showcasing our sibling camaraderie and nostalgia.
- We explore the definition of what constitutes a Muppet, leading to humorous arguments about various characters' Muppet status.
- Joyful memories from our childhood involving Muppets are shared, emphasizing their impact on our lives and family bonding.
- The discussion highlights the unique personality traits of Muppets, showcasing how they resonate with various aspects of our identities.
- We express our favorites, leading to lively disagreements, illustrating the passion and silliness that characterizes our sibling interactions.
- Ultimately, the episode serves as a celebration of Muppet culture, intertwining personal anecdotes with an exploration of beloved characters.
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Transcript
Foreign.
Speaker B:Hello.
Speaker B:Hi, and welcome all to a new episode of Murphy's Rank the World, a podcast where us Murphy siblings get together and pretend to focus on sober and fair assessments of all sorts of things, but instead most likely go off on more than a few tangents and generally get silly.
Speaker B:Let's say hi to my siblings.
Speaker B:I know who they are, but you might not know who they are.
Speaker B:Let's go in reverse age order.
Speaker A:What's age order again?
Speaker C:That.
Speaker C:That's you, Sky.
Speaker C:You're.
Speaker B:You go.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, it's age orders oldest to youngest.
Speaker C:No, she said, yeah.
Speaker C:So reverse.
Speaker B:I said reverse age order.
Speaker A:So then age reverse age older is youngest.
Speaker A:Oldest.
Speaker C:Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker A:I always thought the youngest better.
Speaker C:Okay, see, I wonder why they have that opinion.
Speaker B:I can kick anyone from this podcast at any moment.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I just don't want you to know.
Speaker B:It literally says, let's see.
Speaker B:It says boot.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, like, you know, I'm just saying.
Speaker B:Anyway, introduce yourself.
Speaker A:Hello, everybody.
Speaker A:My name is Sky.
Speaker A:I use they.
Speaker A:Them pronouns.
Speaker A:I love Coca cola caffeinated before 4:30pm and now that I'm in my late 30s, I've discovered that I cannot have caffeine after 4:30pm so now I love caffeine free Coca Cola after 4:30pm yes, it does taste different.
Speaker A:No spawn con.
Speaker B:All right.
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Speaker A:I do like the golden caffeine free.
Speaker C:Coca Cola sponsor us.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Hey, up, buddy.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker C:Yo, it's your boy.
Speaker C:Oh, God.
Speaker C:Just saying that just gave me the chills.
Speaker C:No, we're not gonna do that.
Speaker C:It is I, Tim.
Speaker C:The middle one.
Speaker A:You sounded just like that guy from Together.
Speaker A:Two together.
Speaker A:You know, you plus me equals us.
Speaker C:Oh, God.
Speaker C:I was.
Speaker C:I was hoping more I was going to sound like, you know, Andy Samberg.
Speaker A:From Pop Star, which does sound like.
Speaker A:Listen, I stand by my comment because he sounds like the guy from Together.
Speaker A:Anyways, continue.
Speaker C:And I just want to say I think my eyebrows are looking pretty good today, so I'm always happy to see that.
Speaker C:And I have breaking podcast news that could be related to this podcast.
Speaker C: is Murphy's Rank the world in: Speaker C:That is not a Murphy yet, but she will be.
Speaker A:Wait, what?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:So are you trying to get Ellie on the podcast?
Speaker B:She can come on anytime she wants.
Speaker C:Nope, she has to be a Murphy.
Speaker C:So just so just to strictly get her on the podcast, we're going to legally get married.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:I mean, that makes sense.
Speaker B:I've heard of worse reasons to get married.
Speaker C:Well, yay.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, it's also because we were looking at her insurance and she's going to make too much money this year.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:She's gonna get booted.
Speaker A:So listen, let me tell you now.
Speaker B:Is it?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:We got married.
Speaker A:Injury.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And we are using your model, which is we're just going to get like the administrative thing done just to get like a license and all that and then a celebration.
Speaker C:The other reason we're doing this is so to all you podcast listeners out there, I'm a degenerate gambler.
Speaker C:It just happens to work out for me.
Speaker C:It doesn't a lot of people.
Speaker B:But you might be a generous gambler.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:It might be generic gambling, but anyway, Jellico cat.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Generate cat.
Speaker C:That's right.
Speaker C:The very first cruise Ellie and I ever took was due to getting a free cruise offer from Del Lago Casino while we were on that boat.
Speaker B:Disgusting.
Speaker C:Gambled enough to not only get another free cruise, but actually walk away with money.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker C:So that's the cruise we're taking in 37 days.
Speaker A:And this isn't like a bad crew.
Speaker A:I'm not saying there's bad cruise lines.
Speaker A:I'm just saying this is a non skivy cruise line.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Then I got an email that was like, hey, would you like to cruise again?
Speaker C:So that's when we're taking in December.
Speaker C:And then apparently I had spent enough time in the casino that I got what's referred to as a prestige offer.
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker C:And this prestige offer, a, can be used up to three more cruises.
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:I'm fucking sorry.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker C:Though I only get the casino free play for one more cruise, but there's only specific cruises you can take.
Speaker C: But one of them in: Speaker C:No, sorry.
Speaker C:16 day Hawaiian cruise.
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:Excuse me.
Speaker A:Excuse me, sorry.
Speaker A:Me in the back.
Speaker A:Me in the back.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:The floor recognizes sky.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:I went on a cruise before.
Speaker A:You did.
Speaker C:Yes, you did.
Speaker A:You just went on your first cruise.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:You have now somehow mastered cruising, apparently to the point where before I even get to go on my next one.
Speaker A:You are gonna go on seven.
Speaker C:Well, look, I mean, a.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker C:The up to three is a very condensed schedule.
Speaker C:Like, I don't think I could do a cruise a month.
Speaker A:I could do if not with that attitude.
Speaker A:Yeah, a month.
Speaker C:Well, yeah, I could in a perfect world, but where I need to take Time off from work, and more importantly, where Ellie needs to take time off from work.
Speaker C:In fact.
Speaker C:So going Back to the 16 day Hawaiian cruise, she's like, man, that's a lot of time.
Speaker C:I would feel bad because, you know, she works at a small business.
Speaker C:So when someone's out, you know, it's not like it's that easy to find someone to pick up the slab.
Speaker A:How you got some marriage.
Speaker C:So I was like, well, what if you told them it was your honeymoon?
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker C:Because who's gonna say, no, you can't have a honeymoon?
Speaker A:Nobody.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker C:So I was like, there you go.
Speaker C:Now you can assuage your potentially guilty conscious, because you'll be like, oh, well, it's not just that I'm taking any old cruise.
Speaker C:This is our honeymoon cruise.
Speaker A:Is it a swage or a swage?
Speaker C:I say a swage.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:So anyway, Hi.
Speaker B:Hi, everyone.
Speaker B:I'm Megan.
Speaker B:I'm the oldest.
Speaker B:I use she, her pronouns.
Speaker B:And I've never been on a cruise, and I don't think I ever will because apparently my siblings take all the cruise energy and they're like, oh, no, I'm sorry.
Speaker B:I'm just marrying the person I love and going on a cruise in front of my face.
Speaker B:Right to my face.
Speaker B:I'm right here.
Speaker B:All I'm trying to do is host a podcast, and I got this energy coming at me.
Speaker B:So thank you for being on my side, audience.
Speaker C:Oh, one last thing to twist the knife a little more.
Speaker B:You son of a.
Speaker B:Oh, I'm trying to save you from my own anger.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker C:The one we booked in December was supposed to come with, like, their mid level, all inclusive package.
Speaker C:And when we went.
Speaker C:And when we went to book it, they gave us the highest level, all inclusive package.
Speaker A:You're gonna have the.
Speaker B:See, I'm drinking out of a mug that you gave me for Christmas.
Speaker B:It's cute and it has Totoro on it.
Speaker B:All I want to do right now is throw this mug.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm not your own, like, little.
Speaker C:As long as you keep the lid.
Speaker C:Because that lid was, like, the whole reason I got that.
Speaker C:I was like, oh, it's so adorable.
Speaker B:It's adorable.
Speaker A:Okay, so when does it.
Speaker B:When do we get the reason?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, I mean, we'll yell at Tim, but through the topic, this is what stays.
Speaker B:Keeps us focused.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker C:All right, maybe topic wait to try to save myself.
Speaker C:What if on one of these free cruises that you are the free third and fourth guests?
Speaker B:Well, we won't know till it happens.
Speaker B:Next try.
Speaker B:No, I'll keep the rage bubbling until then, my friend.
Speaker B:But this is good.
Speaker B:Here's the thing.
Speaker B:We're going to focus all that anger right now because we're about to get into it.
Speaker B:For the topic of this episode is the five best Muppets.
Speaker B:And you'll notice, of course, I've used best, because that's objective truth.
Speaker B:I don't want favorites.
Speaker B:I don't want.
Speaker B:This is what I think for the best peak anger levels that we can get, sibling wise, it has to be best.
Speaker B:It has to be.
Speaker B:You're right.
Speaker B:I'm right.
Speaker B:No one else is right.
Speaker B:That's the energy.
Speaker B:Let's just see.
Speaker A:How about.
Speaker B:I'm so angry that I'm gonna have Sky Star.
Speaker B:We're doing reverse age order again.
Speaker B:So we go start with 5, 4, 3, 2.
Speaker B:And that.
Speaker B:We hit people with the best Muppet.
Speaker C:No arguing.
Speaker B:We hit him with wandering.
Speaker C:All right, Number five.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:Tell us how you're wrong.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Throw a name out there and it'll be incorrect.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:I asked for clarity with Meg prior to this, and we don't want clarity.
Speaker C:Part of this, part of the fun of this is.
Speaker C:Is just the amorphous definition.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:So save it for air.
Speaker A:That's exactly what she said.
Speaker C:So, as I recall, one of us was like, breakfast sandwich.
Speaker A:First of all.
Speaker A:First of all, I can't remember how much of Muppets.
Speaker A:Sweden's.
Speaker B:Is that what you're saying right now?
Speaker A:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker A:Is my number five.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Yeah, Sweden's all right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:He's for sure a Muppet.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:I didn't know if costumed counted because there isn't a person with their hand up their ass.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:But the body, as far as we know.
Speaker C:But that could be just, you know, that's.
Speaker C:That's the choice.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And I think it is a beautiful character in terms of being, like, kind of scary.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And imposing, but the sweetest fucking.
Speaker A:One of the sweetest fucking Muppets.
Speaker A:And just a weirdo.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Like, that's a Muppet.
Speaker A:Weird and sweet, but, like, maybe a little creepy, depending on the Muppets.
Speaker A:Sometimes the Muppets can get creepy.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:E.
Speaker A:Dark Crystal a la Dark Crystal.
Speaker A:That should give me nightmares.
Speaker C:Not a friend of the Sketchies.
Speaker A:I can't look at sketches right now.
Speaker A:Like, I can't look at them.
Speaker A:I still can't look at them.
Speaker C:You don't want to see, like, other Muppets get, like, their soul sucked out of their face.
Speaker C:So they're left with just like pure white eyeballs.
Speaker B:If you can sit.
Speaker B:If you consider them Muppets.
Speaker A:Anyways, Clems, that is my answer.
Speaker A:And I would always wanted to hug sweetums too.
Speaker B:That's true.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's a jump scare of the.
Speaker B:The Muppet Movie ride at Hollywood Studios.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Sitting there, living your life and all of a sudden there's someone in a sweetum suit in your space.
Speaker B:I'm supposed.
Speaker B:It's supposed to be cute.
Speaker B:But when you're close to the front and someone just comes out of a door.
Speaker B:I'm wearing 3D glasses.
Speaker B:What do I know is really 4D?
Speaker B:I don't want to punch a college kid.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's an intern.
Speaker C:That, that, that, that they're making like half minimum wage in a suit with no ventilation.
Speaker B:Fight or flight.
Speaker C:Also.
Speaker C:Yeah, quick, quick tangent.
Speaker C:Why Disney?
Speaker C:Why are you taking that away from us?
Speaker C:I mean, all right, I know from a bottom line business perspective why.
Speaker B:But you know, I have, I have good news.
Speaker B:A.
Speaker B:They take and they give the rock and roller coaster.
Speaker B:So they are like.
Speaker B:Nobody knows whose Aerosmith is anymore and we don't want to pay them.
Speaker B:Do you know what they.
Speaker B:And I think it was.
Speaker B:That was it.
Speaker B:What's it called?
Speaker B:D.
Speaker B:23.
Speaker B:23.
Speaker B:2023.
Speaker B:It is going to be the Electric Mayhem because they own their IP because.
Speaker A:They don't have to pay anyone for the ip.
Speaker A:But also.
Speaker A:That's awesome.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna complain though.
Speaker C:Question.
Speaker C:In my pre ride loading area, will Ileana Douglas still be there?
Speaker B:I think it'd be smart have the Muppets.
Speaker B:But she still needs to be a part of the pre show.
Speaker B:Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker B:They'll just like.
Speaker B:They'll just like superimpose her in.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:I mean, they can, they can use the same footage before.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Dr.
Speaker B:Teeth where.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, it's perfect.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Dr.
Speaker C:Teeth where Steven Tyler was exactly.
Speaker C:Insane dialogue.
Speaker C:Actually, no, her dialogue's the same.
Speaker C:Theirs is completely different.
Speaker B:Well, they already had to digitally change it once.
Speaker B:Yeah, they did.
Speaker B:Because apparently there's one part that nobody caught where Steven Tyler's doing his thing where he puts his head up on his hand up on his forehead and he was flipping everyone off and no one noticed it when it was.
Speaker B:It was on the ride.
Speaker B:It was fairly recently that they said they had to go in and put all his fingers in.
Speaker C:Digitally did.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I need you to digitally insert fingers.
Speaker B:Oh, oh, no, don't.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:It's not the first time he said it.
Speaker C:Okay, we got all right, so this one might be controversial, just in the case that it is not a Muppet.
Speaker C:It is a type of Muppet.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:I'm already gonna fight this.
Speaker B:I can feel it.
Speaker C:All right, so number five, I have doozers.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:So I have two arguments with this.
Speaker B:Is anything in Fraggle Rock even actually a Muppet?
Speaker B:And if anything's a Muppet in Fraggle Rock, a Doozer.
Speaker C:Yes, the Doozers.
Speaker C:Yeah, little.
Speaker C:Little six inch.
Speaker C:I mean, first of all, the design is adorable.
Speaker C:They're these round little guys.
Speaker B:I can't argue now.
Speaker C:They've got the perfect little face, little bellies.
Speaker C:I mean, and.
Speaker C:And also, like, it's pretty up the relationship between them and the.
Speaker C:And the Fraggles.
Speaker C:Like, they are these industrious little creatures who all they do is build stuff, and all the Fraggles do is eat what they build, so they have to build more.
Speaker B:Wait, they did a whole episode about that, though.
Speaker C:Yes, they did.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:How about it's part of the ecology, but that's it.
Speaker B:The Fraggles don't eat what the Doozers build.
Speaker B:Then they over build.
Speaker B:It's about balance.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then the Doozers will leave because they have no room to build.
Speaker C:But, you know, but that's also cool how it sort of introduces that idea of a symbiotic relationship in a, you know, closed biological area.
Speaker C:But, I mean, dude, you can't tell me that one little tuft of hair out of the hat, you know, or the one that had, like, permanently closed eyes but could still see everything, you know, I know.
Speaker C:They're not.
Speaker C:Yeah, they're not the standard as sky defined them.
Speaker C:Hand up someone ass.
Speaker C:You know, I still feel like, you know, that design wise, there's.
Speaker C:There's nothing else in the creature shop like them.
Speaker C:And again, you know, it was something unique, something different, something that, you know, backdoored education where, you know, a lot of times, you know, kids would tune out.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Yeah, you're right.
Speaker C:I could see the argument of, can I name a Doozer?
Speaker C:No, I can.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:I can name a Doozer, though.
Speaker B:That's the thing.
Speaker B:I both want to say, no, you're wrong.
Speaker B:That's ridiculous.
Speaker B:But I also want to say cotter pin.
Speaker A:Also, how did you guys help me tell time when we were traveling?
Speaker C:Oh, and Fraggle Rocks.
Speaker A:You would tell me it's two Fraggle Rocks.
Speaker A:It's one Fraggle Rock.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The horrible day that it's three Fraggle Rocks.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Hey, we're gonna be driving for three Fraggle Rocks.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Cotter pin me.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And then we'd have our little desks that go over our laps, and we'd have a little cup of crayons and the thing.
Speaker A:And we'd make Meg draw us because we'd run out of paper to color.
Speaker A:Draw us things to color.
Speaker A:And then we had, like, the dinosaurs, like, on cassette, right?
Speaker A:And then it was like the abridged Disney stories.
Speaker A:So Ariel was a bridge, Belle was a bridge, dinosaurs were a bridge.
Speaker C:And that is how we solved the seven Bridges of Konigsberg math problem.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:But lastly, also, like, they had the cool construction equipment, too.
Speaker C:You know, they.
Speaker C:They had their little tractors and.
Speaker C:So, anyways, all right, so I apologize, Cotter Pin, for not calling you by name, but Doers Five.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:So I guess comes to me as.
Speaker B:As the eldest to be the only one who says an actual Muppet for number five.
Speaker B:That's fine.
Speaker B:That's cool.
Speaker B:I understand some of us care about tradition.
Speaker C:Anyway, look, I.
Speaker C:I understand some of these Muppet judges are very traditionalist about the definition, but I'm saying, like, the definition of Muppets was written over 200 years ago by, you know, a bunch of white land owners that really didn't know what society was going to bring down the road.
Speaker C:So I think we need to have some interpretation.
Speaker B:You put me in an impossible position, so I'm going to tell you my number five, and this is the correct one.
Speaker B:Uncle Deadly.
Speaker A:Speaking of kind of creepy Muppets started.
Speaker B:On the Muppet Show.
Speaker B:In fact, he was introduced in the Vincent Price episode, which is the most perfect thing ever.
Speaker B:It has nothing to do.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Has something to do with me loving Uncle Dudley so much.
Speaker B:He's a creepy kind of gargoyle dude.
Speaker B:He's got the little scraggly hairs.
Speaker B:He's got this snout.
Speaker B:He's got, like, pink, blue eyes.
Speaker B:Yeah, he looks terrifying.
Speaker B:But what I extra appreciate about him is that in later shows, he has been working as Miss Piggy's dresser.
Speaker B:And I love that energy of, like, the kind of creepy, evil dude.
Speaker B:But now he's like the guy dealing with the diva, and he's like, she cannot know what size she wears.
Speaker A:And he's.
Speaker B:It's perfect energy.
Speaker A:And he's 100% like an old gay queen.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:He gives.
Speaker A:Giving old gay queen vibes.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He's theater.
Speaker B:He's that show vicious.
Speaker B:Like, he's.
Speaker B:All of that he's been through.
Speaker B:He's been in the theater long enough to go know what's going to happen.
Speaker B:What's happened before, what will happen again.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:He is the Honey.
Speaker C:There is no problem that I have not seen on stage before and do not know how to fix.
Speaker B:I love that.
Speaker B:And because you take this horror beginning and then you get this camp theatric.
Speaker B:So he's horror theater, which is everything I'm going to like.
Speaker C:Which again, if he came out, if.
Speaker C:If he was introducing the Vincent Price episode.
Speaker C:Makes complete sense.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:That's the thing.
Speaker B:I think he's got.
Speaker B:He's got old school theatrical energy, and I think that kind of.
Speaker B:That keeps the Muppets tied to their, like, kind of like the whole idea of, like, the f.
Speaker B:That first show was they were putting out.
Speaker B:They're putting on a show in a theater.
Speaker C:Yeah, they.
Speaker C:They.
Speaker C:They are essentially the Groundlings.
Speaker C:They are Upright Citizens Brigade.
Speaker C:They are whatever local community theater group you didn't think.
Speaker B:Before they made it.
Speaker C:Yeah, before they made it.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Okay, so let's go with our number four picks.
Speaker C:Number four.
Speaker A:Hit me for this guy.
Speaker B:You see, you're referring to your notes.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:No, go away.
Speaker A:I don't want your face near.
Speaker C:All right, I'll do number four, because I think this one's gonna generate some.
Speaker A:I got it, I got it, I got it.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:Getting spicy.
Speaker B:Getting spicy.
Speaker B:Getting hot.
Speaker C:I knew that.
Speaker C:I knew that was a secret to get sky to respond there.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:The manipulation.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:It's called encouragement.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's called encouragement.
Speaker A:Where's my caffeine free coke?
Speaker B:Okay, I'm caffeinated.
Speaker B:That's your problem right now.
Speaker A:I'm not caffeinated.
Speaker A:So number four, I'm having trouble because four and three are, like, really close.
Speaker C:You better find a tiebreaker.
Speaker A:Okay, I got it.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I'm committed.
Speaker A:Four is.
Speaker A:Wait, I can do it.
Speaker A:Give me two seconds.
Speaker A:The rat.
Speaker C:Rizzo.
Speaker A:Rizzo.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay, now for two reasons.
Speaker A:One, I really like the name Rizzo because I love the musical Grease, and Rizzo is my favorite character.
Speaker A:And then Rizzo the Rat became one of my favorite Muppets because of his relationship with Gonzo.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, that might come up later there, once they put those two together.
Speaker A:And then in Muppets Go to Space or Muppets in Space, where that movie, he gets a whole side story about being, like a medical testing rat.
Speaker A:And then there's Boo Boo the Bear, which also I love Boo Boo.
Speaker C:Bobo.
Speaker A:Oh, sorry, Bobo.
Speaker A:And then we used to have that nickname, Bobo.
Speaker A:So I love Bobo and I just.
Speaker A:He's so funny.
Speaker B:Got you correct.
Speaker A:Plus, I love rats.
Speaker C:Is Rizzo the rat that ice skates on butter in one of the rats.
Speaker B:It was one of the rats in my mistake.
Speaker B:Manhattan.
Speaker A:Manhattan.
Speaker B:Yeah, I was gonna mention that, too.
Speaker B:Iconic scene that lives in my head.
Speaker C:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:Ice skate on hot skillets with butter.
Speaker A:Just, you know, was rat tattooing before?
Speaker A:Rat before.
Speaker B:But they didn't need humans.
Speaker B:They're like, no.
Speaker B:If you want our food, rats cook it.
Speaker B:Watch.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:There was no hiding rat.
Speaker C:The New York rats.
Speaker A:New York rats.
Speaker C:You want this breakfast or not?
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker A:Diner.
Speaker B:Touched it with my little paws.
Speaker A:The world's best coffee, right?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Fun fact.
Speaker C:You know why the coffee's so good?
Speaker C:We eat the beans and we ship them out and then we cook them.
Speaker B:It's better than civet.
Speaker B:It's a New York.
Speaker B:New York City style civic coffee.
Speaker A:And he had the little towel and the little white.
Speaker B:Everything's little with that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Tank top.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I just love.
Speaker A:Sometimes he has a little girlfriend that has little, like, dresses like.
Speaker B:Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Blonde hair and a ponytail.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker C:See, Very similar to, like the.
Speaker C:My.
Speaker C:Why I like.
Speaker C:To the doozers.
Speaker C:It's like they just.
Speaker C:I like, take regular things and make them small.
Speaker A:They're.
Speaker B:They could share the same wardrobe.
Speaker A:What's it called?
Speaker A:Like their Beeline or the Beast.
Speaker A:He's a lot a part of the B stories of the plot.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they're always like, really good breakup.
Speaker B:Like, I appreciate the one up a show they did where they're putting on a show and the comedy writers are Gonzo, Rizzo and Pepe.
Speaker B:And I'm like, yeah, they all live together in that show.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I was like, yeah, they.
Speaker B:They're on the same.
Speaker B:The vibe level.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that was why it was hard because.
Speaker B:Okay, all right.
Speaker B:I can't fight this one too much.
Speaker A:Four and three.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker B:For another Disney fact.
Speaker B:When they change the Pizza Planet pizza place to the Muppet one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They have a.
Speaker B:A neon sign and it's like something like, it's great pizza, but sometimes some of the neon goes out and it says it's rat pizza.
Speaker B:I'm like, too bad their food isn't as good as, like, the.
Speaker B:The pizzeria sign.
Speaker B:Because I'm like, no, that's good energy right there.
Speaker C:Quick aside.
Speaker C:I've always been disappointed in the food at Disney.
Speaker C:Like, they're very rare.
Speaker C:Like, every now and then there's something that's really good.
Speaker C:But on whole, it just seems, especially if we're not talking, like the bakeries or like the little snack places.
Speaker C:If you're talking actual food places to eat.
Speaker C:If you're not doing, like, the princess breakfast or you're not doing the fancy thing at, like, the Bellman Beast Castle.
Speaker C:I just feel like if you do the casual stuff, it's just kind of disappointing.
Speaker B:Are you.
Speaker B:I'm sorry, are you badmouthing the corn dog nugs at Casey's?
Speaker A:Because I was.
Speaker B:Face.
Speaker B:Literally.
Speaker C:No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker A:Going to jump.
Speaker A:By the way, corn dog dupe.
Speaker A:Costco sponsor us has a bag of like 175 frozen corn dog nuggies that specifically specify honey being in the corn batter.
Speaker A:You air fry them, but do not air fry them.
Speaker A:How they say to.
Speaker A:They say to do it for 8 minutes, do it for 12 at.
Speaker A:On 370 and they taste exactly like the Disney.
Speaker A:It's a Disney dupe.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Those.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Those are the exception that proves the rule, though, because you notice how nobody else came back with anything except here's.
Speaker A:The thing at.
Speaker B:May I.
Speaker A:May.
Speaker B:I think May I says this is an episode.
Speaker C:Okay, okay.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:Well, I will come back with Tim.
Speaker A:All day, every day.
Speaker B:I'm seeing it.
Speaker B:I'm putting it in the notes right now.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker C:Put in the notes anyways.
Speaker C:All right, I'll go.
Speaker C:I'll move on to my number four before we've completely derailed the episode on moving on to a subject that has nothing to do with our main subject.
Speaker C:All right, number four for me.
Speaker C:Sky was kind enough to actually already do the introduction for me.
Speaker C:Pepe the King Prawn.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, a newer addition to the Muppet family, but I think they really knocked that one out of the park.
Speaker C:You know, little jackets.
Speaker C:Yeah, again, little jackets.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:I'm here for the little chains.
Speaker C:Little ch.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:If you're wearing jewelry.
Speaker C:Sold.
Speaker C:You know, I.
Speaker C:I like how yes, I am not the shin.
Speaker C:I am a king prawn, you know.
Speaker C:You know, very proud of.
Speaker C:Of who he is and what he stands for.
Speaker C:Little disappointed that there was that time where he was the spokesperson for Long John Silver's.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:You know, that's okay.
Speaker B:They didn't cook prawns.
Speaker B:He's fine.
Speaker A:Yeah, they didn't cook prawns.
Speaker A:They don't cook prawns.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Pepe was like, you know what?
Speaker C:Them shrimp eat them all.
Speaker C:I 2.
Speaker B:I'd have more to say, but he might be coming up another time, so I can't.
Speaker B:I can't waste my notes on your things, Tim.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Yeah, so Pepe, the King Prong number four.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Excellent.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:Okay, let's see here.
Speaker B:My number four.
Speaker B:I want even more classic this time.
Speaker B:And I went with Ralph the dog.
Speaker B:I think he's just classic.
Speaker B:The fact that it said that he is the closest to Jim Henson's real life personality.
Speaker B:His co workers would say that he, of all the Muppets, particularly the ones that he performed, he's very much Ralph.
Speaker B:I particularly like Rolf because, like, he's laid back and most Muppets are pretty manic.
Speaker B:He, he is a cool, like, he's like a cool center.
Speaker B:He'll stay, he'll play the piano.
Speaker B:There's a lot of stuff going around him, and he's like the anchor, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean, he's, he's sort of like the.
Speaker C:If I need to go to a Muppet for advice.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:You know.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:A, he's gonna play me a song.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:And B, he'll sing it.
Speaker C:Yeah, he'll.
Speaker C:He'll sing it, you know?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And, yeah, you know, I, I, he's, he's the, the centering force for that entire, you know, show.
Speaker A:Even baby Ralph was like the core.
Speaker B:Of Muppet babies playing his little, his.
Speaker C:Little piano come true.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, what's interesting is so, you know, a couple of them up.
Speaker B:It started before, like, the Muppet show, right?
Speaker B:And, oh, Ralph actually started as a sidekick to Jimmy Dean on the Jimmy Dean Show.
Speaker B:He would get fan letters.
Speaker C:Sausage guy.
Speaker B:Jimmy the Sausage Guy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker B:At a TV show.
Speaker B:And Ralph was a sidekick on it for a while.
Speaker B:And then he also, he also was a spokes dog for a.
Speaker B:I think it was like, it was like Puppy Chow or something.
Speaker B:So, you know, he had a life before the Muppet show, and then he's like, you know what I want to do?
Speaker B:I'm gonna, I'm gonna go hang out my friends and play piano.
Speaker B:You know, like, he retired early.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:He's the guy that had already hit it, and then all of his friends were like, we want to get into show business, too.
Speaker C:And he was like, yeah, you know what?
Speaker C:Let me help you out.
Speaker C:Like, I, I've gone through some of these growing pains.
Speaker C:Hopefully I can help you get through.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So I just feel like he's from Ralph.
Speaker B:Yeah, he's the chill choice.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Thanks, Ralph, for holding it together.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:All right, sky, are you ready for your number three favorite?
Speaker C:Anyone who, Anyone who has played piano with Paul Williams.
Speaker C:I mean.
Speaker B:Well, don't get me started.
Speaker B:All right, this will become a Paul Williams, by the way, real quick, I.
Speaker C:Was at one point thinking of putting Paul Williams as number three on my Muppet list.
Speaker C:I'll tell you right now, I think we have some very strong arguments about why that.
Speaker B:I wouldn't argue against it.
Speaker B:The man wrote Rainbow Connection.
Speaker B:Like, that's just it.
Speaker B:He's more of a Muppet than some of those Muppets.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Okay, sorry, go ahead, Sky.
Speaker C:Number three.
Speaker A:Three.
Speaker A:Three.
Speaker A:Three.
Speaker A:Number three.
Speaker A:And you will see why I was going back and forth is a Muppet that I think should have made it to adulthood and didn't.
Speaker A:And I think that's disrespectful.
Speaker B:I think I know who you're talking about, but I'm.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I can't.
Speaker A:And so I'm gonna say the name, and I think I'm gonna get the wrong name, because there was two.
Speaker A:But I want to say Peter, you're correct.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker A:And it's honestly disrespectful that Skeeter doesn't exist as an adult.
Speaker A:And I would like to blame misogyny for that.
Speaker B:I think it's interesting that, once again, like a Muppet that's not a Muppet.
Speaker B:I don't think there's ever been a three dimensional Skeeter.
Speaker B:I think only existed in Muppet Babies because they needed another girl.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Muppet Babies, huh?
Speaker A:Muppet Babies.
Speaker B:Because there were Muppets on the show.
Speaker B:Some of them were Muppets.
Speaker A:So they're Muppets.
Speaker B:Some of them.
Speaker A:Skeeter is a Muppet.
Speaker B:Would you call Nanny a Muppet?
Speaker A:No, Nanny's not a Muppet.
Speaker C:But she was.
Speaker B:Okay, but Nanny's on Muppet Babies.
Speaker A:She wasn't a Muppet Baby.
Speaker C:Okay, but where are we putting the.
Speaker C:The emphasis is the.
Speaker C:Around the baby.
Speaker C:Because if it's on, the Muppet Baby.
Speaker C:If it's on, the Muppet counts as a Muppet.
Speaker C:If it's on there.
Speaker A:There are humanoid Muppets.
Speaker A:There are humanoid Muppets.
Speaker A:We have seen them.
Speaker A:And if they went two dimensional, then those two would be drawn, like Skeeter and Scooter.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, you're right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right, right.
Speaker A:Sker and Scooter.
Speaker A:So, as I said, Skeeter got screwed out of growing up and becoming.
Speaker A:What are we?
Speaker A:Are we in the third?
Speaker A:Are we in the fifth dimension?
Speaker A:Whatever dimension we're in.
Speaker A:Uhhuh.
Speaker A:40.
Speaker B:I gotcha.
Speaker B:Or where they.
Speaker A:Where they drag hoses behind your legs and then, like, split spit at you so you feel the water from the screen and you feel like rats are walking behind.
Speaker B:I'm just saying, maybe Peter was like, I was like a.
Speaker B:A childhood star.
Speaker B:That just wasn't the life for me.
Speaker C:Well, remember, like, like, Skeeter was, like, athletic.
Speaker C:So I just imagine, like, Skeeter was like, I don't want to go into show business.
Speaker C:I want to go into sports.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, in my.
Speaker C:In my brain, Skeeter is like, you know, the Candace Parker of the Muppet world.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Went on to a long industrial w.
Speaker C:Let's see.
Speaker C:Women's.
Speaker C:So wmnba.
Speaker C:Women's Muppet.
Speaker C:National Basketball Association.
Speaker B:You know, I'd watch the hell out of it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The same way I love watching the clips of those, like, halftime games where, like, the college mascots take on, like, the peewee football teams.
Speaker C:Always trucking.
Speaker C:Those little.
Speaker B:Those kids have to learn sometime.
Speaker C:These little 8 to 10 year olds are just like in their little peewee outfits out, you know, way big helmets, giant shoulder pads, running with a football and then freaking.
Speaker C:The horse mascot from the Indianapolis Colts just knocks him into the next stratosphere.
Speaker C:And then because he's got that, like, hoop shaped body, like, gritty, he then does like, the little, like, dance on top of the kid.
Speaker A:So gritty would run through a entire.
Speaker B:Gritty had no compunction.
Speaker B:He's from Philly.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Gritty specifically picked hockey for a reason because he knew if he went into football, he'd killed them kids.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I like Skeeter.
Speaker B:I will argue.
Speaker B:I don't ski up if I like Skeeter too much to fight this.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, oh, well, let's just.
Speaker C:Let's just keep the controversy going.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker C:I've got a good one for number three.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Originally not.
Speaker C:Wasn't on my radar, but then when I was recalling the story, like, where sky was talking about measuring fraggle rocks and driving and then the tape we would listen to.
Speaker C:How could I not have the dinosaurs?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:Sky and I are on the same side now.
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker C:Look.
Speaker B:No, that was a dinosaur from the show Dinosaurs.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:Which one?
Speaker C:The baby.
Speaker A:Oh, the baby.
Speaker A:What's the baby's name?
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:I just always knew it as the baby.
Speaker B:I think it's just Baby Sinclair.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, it's Baby Sinclair.
Speaker A:That's what it is.
Speaker A:Not the mama.
Speaker C:Exactly, exactly.
Speaker C:You know, catchphrase that haunted us.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:Not the mama.
Speaker C:You know, but yeah, I mean, look at.
Speaker C:We've been fast and loose with our definition of Muppets and I.
Speaker B:Some of us Have.
Speaker A:I would argue that it is on Disney plus.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:Then I guess Jude Law in the newest Star wars is a Muppet.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I know I opened that door.
Speaker B:Jude Law Muppet.
Speaker B:I opened that door.
Speaker C:You do.
Speaker C:And now.
Speaker C:And now we're gonna, you know, watch, you know.
Speaker C:What was he in?
Speaker C:Was it Gattaca?
Speaker B:Oh, yes.
Speaker B:Yes, he was in Gattaca.
Speaker C:So okay, boom.
Speaker B:Muppet Movie.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker B:What did we do?
Speaker A:You know what else is a.
Speaker A:Is a Muppet film that I was like, oh, that's why they need a kid switch now on Disney plus because they have Hulu.
Speaker A:That means all the.
Speaker A:Oh, wait, I know what it is.
Speaker A:The scary.
Speaker A:The Murphy Scary America.
Speaker A:No, I can do this.
Speaker B:His last name is American Horror Story.
Speaker A:American Horror Stories.
Speaker B:Like you're talking about Ryan Murphy.
Speaker B:I was like, not us.
Speaker B:Murphy's no Ryan Murphy for that.
Speaker C:Yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker A:We not non affiliated now I gotcha.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:I mean, scream queens are Muppets film.
Speaker B:I got you.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker C:Prime Time show, it, it was, you know, a, A pretty big part of the culture in the 90s there.
Speaker C:You know, they, they had all sorts of merchandise.
Speaker C:They were in suits, you know, there are people in.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker A:Hands were up butts.
Speaker C:Hands were up butts.
Speaker C:You know, and also, I don't know what dinosaurs have darkest endings of a family sitcom ever.
Speaker A:That's what more is.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:What do you mean there's not.
Speaker C:That's what more means.
Speaker A:You know, I learned that lesson in that exact second.
Speaker A:That was one of the moments that I sat watching TV or some.
Speaker A:Or reading something or taking in something into my brain and being like, I learned it the second it came out of that.
Speaker A:That character's mouth.
Speaker A:I said, oh, more.
Speaker A:There's no more.
Speaker A:Those are the only two left.
Speaker C:Yep, great.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:So they touch important lessons, you know, and again, it.
Speaker C:It's a character that for good or for bad, you don't forget.
Speaker B:Okay, so here's the thing.
Speaker C:Sinclair number three.
Speaker B:Okay, here's the thing.
Speaker B:Why I'm not arguing harder because you've actually set me up perfectly for my number three and it's not going to make sense at first, but just hold on.
Speaker B:My number three has already been brought up.
Speaker B:Pepe the King Prawn.
Speaker B:I'll tell you why this is related.
Speaker B:Bill Beretta, who performs Pepe the King Prawn.
Speaker B:His first job with the Henson Company was Earl Sinclair's body performer.
Speaker B:Not the voice, the body performer.
Speaker C:He was the dude in the suit.
Speaker B:He Was the dude in the suit getting hit by the puppet with the frying pan saying, not the mama.
Speaker C:Yeah, Stripes.
Speaker B:Beautiful.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Beautiful story.
Speaker B:Now we hear his voice, he does several characters.
Speaker B:He's done Bobo the bear and Tim.
Speaker B:You'll love this.
Speaker B:Johnny Fiamma.
Speaker C:Johnny Fiam.
Speaker B:But I think obviously his.
Speaker B:His most iconic character and one of the few, I mean, we say newer in that the 90s, let's not do math.
Speaker B:But still, comparatively to the 70s.
Speaker C:What are you talking about?
Speaker C:The 90s were like 15 years ago.
Speaker B:He helped.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Anyway, you know, I think this Pepe is just like a different kind of Muppet.
Speaker B:The closest is Rizzo.
Speaker B:And I think that's why they've paired them up sometimes, because they both have that little like, almost more like they're city creatures.
Speaker B:Now, of course, it makes sense for Rizzo.
Speaker B:I don't know why this prawn has that energy, but he does sometimes wear a turtleneck and gold chains and he's got swag.
Speaker B:Like, that's a character characteristic of him.
Speaker B:He's got swag.
Speaker C:He's got big prawn energy.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:You know what, he can do his own things.
Speaker B:He's one of those Muppets who.
Speaker B:Yeah, we've talked about commercials, but because he can, you don't have to know that he's a Muppet to go, I'll watch this, I'll watch this prawn.
Speaker B:Or I've seen clips of him on morning shows hitting on one of the anchors.
Speaker B:I don't know why that works.
Speaker B:Most Muppets couldn't pull that off.
Speaker B:Most would be drop kicked and not let their.
Speaker B:One of their four little furry noodle arms touch someone's knee.
Speaker B:And now with pipe.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:It's okay.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, if you think about Pepe, there are a wide variety of Muppets that you can absolutely see, like doing that cartwheel fling from one side of the room to the other.
Speaker C:He's not one of them.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker C:Like, for whatever reason, you look at him and you go, that's not his style.
Speaker A:When he wears a hoodie.
Speaker A:That hoodie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, he's just.
Speaker B:He, you know what?
Speaker B:He had Riz, one, before he met Rizzo and two, before we use the word Riz.
Speaker A:Oh, my God, that's real.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like I.
Speaker B:I say swag again, but I feel like he's one of the few Muppets that have genuine swag and he knows it, which is dangerous and why it's hilarious.
Speaker C:Yes, agreed.
Speaker B:There's a little bit of desperation under there, which is exactly what makes it.
Speaker B:He believes in himself, but he really, really, really would love to date you.
Speaker B:And you know what?
Speaker B:Sometimes, like, you know, that's just.
Speaker B:That's what I want.
Speaker B:This is what I want to see as I go.
Speaker B:Pepe, you're.
Speaker B:You, you're.
Speaker B:You're a short king.
Speaker C:Short king.
Speaker B:And then we appreciate short kings here.
Speaker C:Agreed.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Oh, God.
Speaker B:We're getting close.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Now it's gonna start getting real serious.
Speaker B:Sky.
Speaker B:Sky.
Speaker B:Number two.
Speaker B:Almost your number one pick.
Speaker A:I just want to say, if we could do a tie for one, I would love that, but apparently that's against our policies and procedures.
Speaker C:Hold on, let's check with the judges.
Speaker C:Meg, I say absolutely not.
Speaker C:There are no ties.
Speaker B:No, I mean, how do you fight about a tie?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Ridiculously angry about things that don't matter.
Speaker C:The fighting isn't.
Speaker C:Just remember, for this to work, the fighting just can't be with others.
Speaker C:Sometimes the fight is with yourself.
Speaker B:Well played, Tim.
Speaker A:Well played.
Speaker A:A touche or.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Don't mess with me.
Speaker A:I was raised in the 90s.
Speaker B:Now you got him started singing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Number two, right?
Speaker C:Number two.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, it's fine.
Speaker A:It's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:It's fine, it's fine.
Speaker C:I mean, it depends.
Speaker C:We don't know what your number two is.
Speaker C:Might not be fine, but.
Speaker B:Yeah, it might be the worst choice ever.
Speaker B:You'll know.
Speaker B:We'll let you know.
Speaker B:Don't worry about it.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:Give us your number two and we'll tell you why you're wrong.
Speaker B:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker B:That's what siblings do.
Speaker A:All of you?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I'm just gonna do it.
Speaker A:Hold on.
Speaker A:It's out of my head.
Speaker A:Hold on.
Speaker A:Give me a second.
Speaker B:Wow, it's a real strong number two, then.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Geez Louise.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:It has been a 12 hour day.
Speaker A:Friends.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I mean, sure.
Speaker B:I barely Muppets more than others.
Speaker B:That's all.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:What is the Grouch's name?
Speaker C:Oscar.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:Oscar the Grouch.
Speaker A:Main name.
Speaker A:I was like, Edward the Grouch.
Speaker A:I said, that's not right.
Speaker C:No, no.
Speaker C:Edward the Grouch is.
Speaker C:I'm pretty sure, on Downton Abbey.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:I very much am not happy about the goings on in the downstairs.
Speaker C:Oh, no.
Speaker C:Here comes Edward the Grouch out of the system.
Speaker A:And then I said, Andre the Grouch.
Speaker A:And I was like, no, that's Andre the Giant.
Speaker C:Now I will tell You Princess Bride with Oscar the Grouch as physic would have been.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, just throwing him around in his trash can.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:So Oscar the Grouch is numero.
Speaker C:You are the brute squad.
Speaker A:We are the brute squad.
Speaker A:I do not think you.
Speaker A:That means what you think it means.
Speaker C:Anybody got a peanut?
Speaker A:We could do that for an entire podcast.
Speaker A:And then just keep quoting films.
Speaker A:That's how we communicate.
Speaker A:And then just keep jumping.
Speaker A:Films.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you can only communicate in film quotes.
Speaker A:We can do that for hours.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And if you're gonna be on this podcast, you better God damn know.
Speaker A:This thing used to be civilized.
Speaker A:You'd kill a guy, he'd whack you.
Speaker A:Done.
Speaker A:But if Terry Benedict's involved, you better not know you're involved or think you're dead because they kill you and then you go to work on you.
Speaker A:I think it up a little bit, but it's.
Speaker C:That's all right.
Speaker C:I put you on the spot.
Speaker C:You weren't expecting instant potion 11, so.
Speaker A:But did you see how fast I could do that?
Speaker A:Even with a Swiss army knife?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Swiss cheese of a brain.
Speaker C:No, I actually, I'm a big fan of Swiss army knife.
Speaker B:Sometimes it's the cheese.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, Swiss army cheese.
Speaker A:Sometimes it's Swiss, sometimes it's cheese, Sometimes it's a knife.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Are you a knife brain or cheese brain today?
Speaker A:Can we put that in a shirt design?
Speaker B:I would like that on a defend your wrong choice.
Speaker A:I wanted on a teal shirt, tri blend.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker C:Also, by the way, I can't believe that's number two.
Speaker C:How is Oscar not number one?
Speaker C:I can't believe you would.
Speaker C:You would knock him down.
Speaker A:If you know me personally, you would know who my number one is.
Speaker C:No, I don't think I know you.
Speaker A:Personally, Oscar the Grouch.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:Just living big feelings.
Speaker A:Living the.
Speaker A:I don't have to fox with you, but that I can still be like, I can still be grouchy and engaged with people.
Speaker A:I can still have friends and be grouchy.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Like, I can close my door on you and come back and still be able to talk to you and then be like, no, here are my boundaries.
Speaker A:I'm not talking to you anymore.
Speaker A:Like, telling me you're not teaching kids that you don't have to be happy all the time.
Speaker A:I love Oscar the Grouch.
Speaker A:You know, it be grouchy.
Speaker A:It's fine.
Speaker A:Now, you can't be taking out your grouch on people all the time.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:And then nobody said he was Stinky.
Speaker A:Ever.
Speaker A:Nobody said you were stinky.
Speaker A:But he was living in garbage.
Speaker C:No, I mean, I think that's a good point.
Speaker C:You know.
Speaker C:You know, there was never any false happiness there.
Speaker C:Oscar.
Speaker C:Who Oscar was who Oscar was.
Speaker A:And as you grew up with Oscar, you would get jokes and funny little things that'd be like.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, that's for, like, teenagers.
Speaker C:Hey, sorry, kindergartners.
Speaker C:You'll get this in a few years.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:I mean, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker B:You continue this, because I'm gonna shut.
Speaker A:It down like this.
Speaker A:And they did the different ways that he would get around.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I always thought he looked like Grover when he was out of the can.
Speaker C:All right, I.
Speaker C:I want.
Speaker C:I want to hear the shutdown.
Speaker B:Okay, so here's the thing, and I'm going by our friend and wise Muppet Sage, Vanessa, who I believe was pretty clear in saying that Sesame street is not Muppets.
Speaker A:Sesame Street.
Speaker A:Muppets.
Speaker C:So what was Vanessa's argument for why Sesame Street's not Muppets?
Speaker B:Well, she's.
Speaker B:She was just saying that, like, Sesame Street's its own thing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You can be created by the Henson Workshop, but that doesn't bestow Muppet ness upon you.
Speaker B:This is also where I go.
Speaker B:But slimy.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:A Muppet, because I love that little guy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I want to make a little.
Speaker B:Little Muppet Worm.
Speaker B:And it'll have a little tiny mouth and little beady eyes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I don't know, because, I mean.
Speaker A:Kermit was in freaking Big Bird's movie or was Big Bird's a Muppet.
Speaker B:But it's not like every human who's ever been in a Muppet movie is now a Muppet.
Speaker B:Only Tim Curry is.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Only.
Speaker A:Well, Tim Curr was.
Speaker C:Was a Muppet before Muppets were born, so.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, there's that.
Speaker B:I do not know who wrote this bit of wisdom, but someone once said in Muppet Christmas Carol, Michael Kane treats all the Muppets like fellow actors, whereas in Muppet Treasure Island, Tim Curry treats all the Muppets as fellow Muppets.
Speaker B:And I was like, that explains it perfectly.
Speaker B:I should have put Tim Curry on this list.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Number one Muppet.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:That was a beautiful analogy.
Speaker B:Big Brain.
Speaker B:Big Brain.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's like, Big Brain always knew what movie.
Speaker C:Not gonna lie.
Speaker C:That part in Muppet Christmas Carol where bean bunny gets just destroyed by that wreath.
Speaker B:It's pretty funny.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's pretty funny.
Speaker C:I will tell you right now, if we were doing top five worst Muppets, Bean Bunnies on there.
Speaker C:Can't stand it.
Speaker B:Doesn't.
Speaker B:I can appreciate.
Speaker A:Well, the answer is Emmett Otter, first of all.
Speaker B:Oh, my God, that's family trauma.
Speaker B:Family trauma.
Speaker C:No, no.
Speaker C:Emmett Otter in and of itself, is a character.
Speaker C:Fine.
Speaker C:The movie.
Speaker B:Are we ready to bring the heat upon us?
Speaker B:What if someone actually listens to this?
Speaker A:She already knows we've had.
Speaker B:No, I'm not worried about Mom.
Speaker B:Mom already knows.
Speaker B:I'm just saying about your regular civilians out there wondering why the Murphy family hates Emmett Otter's joke Bad Christmas because it sounds nuts.
Speaker B:And I'm like, listen, listen, folks.
Speaker B:You just don't know.
Speaker B:We have history.
Speaker B:A lot of history.
Speaker B:A lot, a lot.
Speaker B:A lot of repetitions in history with this film.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, God.
Speaker B:Where were we?
Speaker B:We had number two.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:I had said Oscar the Grouch when I thought it was Edward.
Speaker B:Oh, no, no.
Speaker B:The one thing is, I will say is I appreciate the C.
Speaker B:Live.
Speaker B:Live sketch when they were doing the Joker, but it was Oscar and David harbor was playing the live action Oscar the Grouch and I would absolutely watch that film.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:The man could play Santa.
Speaker B:The man can play Oscar.
Speaker B:Like, truly, truly.
Speaker B:So talented.
Speaker B:So talented.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker B:All right, Tim.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Are we gonna go back on the rails here?
Speaker B:Are we going back to Sense?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Yeah, we're back on the rails.
Speaker C:Number two, absolutely, positively has to be the Swedish Chef.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:I mean, talk about, like, first of all, like, everybody knows the design.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, and, you know, it's.
Speaker C:It's the joke that's always perfect, which is you can't understand the thing he's saying.
Speaker C:The man just wants to cook.
Speaker C:And a lot of times when I'm cooking, I have that same sort of manic energy of ingredients are flying and sort of like you watch the person making the food going.
Speaker C:This person has no clue what they're doing.
Speaker C:And I'm so scared what's going to come out.
Speaker C:And yet the finished product.
Speaker C:Beautiful.
Speaker C:It's amazing.
Speaker C:Or it's just something that surprises you in a way that you weren't expecting.
Speaker C:Like, you know, when we put a chicky in the basket and then we score two points.
Speaker B:Chicken the basket.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And look, find me a single person who at one point in their life has not just gone like, you do it, you do it.
Speaker C:You can't help it.
Speaker C:You know, sometimes that string of nonsense is the only thing that's appropriate for what's happening to you.
Speaker A:Have you asked me how long it took for me to recognize those are like, hand.
Speaker A:Hands?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's the other thing is, you know, he was a Muppet with human hands, which, by the way, you know, also makes them unique.
Speaker C:There's not a lot of Muppets that had human hands as part of their, of who they are.
Speaker C:But yeah, you know, and, and I think they, like.
Speaker C:No one's trying to give the backstory of the Swedish Chef, you know, Chef.
Speaker A:Beaker and what's his.
Speaker A:No, no, Beaker, not.
Speaker A:But the other guy.
Speaker C:Bunsen, Honeydew.
Speaker A:Bunsen.
Speaker A:Honeydew hands.
Speaker C:Oh, true.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:When they do the scientific experiments.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And then the guy with the fish that juggles the fish.
Speaker C:Oh, I'm blanking on his name, but I know who you mean.
Speaker A:And that's all I mean.
Speaker B:You mean New Zealand.
Speaker C:New Zealand, Yeah.
Speaker B:Those are both felt, felt like gloves, I think.
Speaker B:Only the Swedish Chef has naked, fleshy hands.
Speaker C:But, but yeah, so that's what I'm saying.
Speaker C:Like, Swedish Chef's never going to show up on Muppet Babies.
Speaker C:You're never going to get a B story of, like, Swedish Chef, like, going back to his roots or anything.
Speaker C:We just assume he's from Sweden.
Speaker C:You know, as far as we know, he just had a note on him when he appeared on the show that said, hi, I'm the Swedish Chef.
Speaker C:Dude could be in witness protection.
Speaker C:We don't know.
Speaker C:And you know what the best part is?
Speaker C:I don't want to know.
Speaker C:Like, like, I just love the idea of this dude just showed up speaking incredibly ridiculous gibberish.
Speaker C:And they're like, yeah, we're putting him on our show and we're gonna eat the.
Speaker C:He cooks.
Speaker B:Even though sometimes that stuff that he cooks has been talking to him previously.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:Even the vegetables.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:He lives an odd life.
Speaker B:He often has to talk to these ingredients before he makes them into something that would drive you mad.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:So I, I, I'm just saying, you know, he's so.
Speaker C:For those reasons, Swedish Chef number two.
Speaker B:All right, Okay.
Speaker B:I mean, I did see him make tacos with Danny Trejo once.
Speaker B:So what am I supposed to do there?
Speaker B:That just makes sense to me.
Speaker B:All right, okay.
Speaker B:My number two.
Speaker B:And it's up.
Speaker B:And she would argue with me for being number two, but my number two, Miss Piggy, she's the diva of all divas.
Speaker B:That's just it.
Speaker B:She's just a small town pig.
Speaker B:A small town pig who made it big through grit, gumption and the occasional use of martial arts.
Speaker A:Yeah, more than occasional.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, listen, only one of was necessary.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Don't stand in her way.
Speaker B:Kermit, I didn't like.
Speaker B:She's elegant, she's Grace, she's.
Speaker B:She was such a star that there was no choice but for her to shine.
Speaker C:And she'll call you on your, like, if you're lip syncing a song to her, she will let you know.
Speaker C:Charles.
Speaker B:Charles Grodin.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, she doesn't.
Speaker B:Listen, listen.
Speaker C:Charles Gordon also would have been accepted as a Muppet.
Speaker B:Oh, God.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, I could buy that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I also feel like, like, what's the word here?
Speaker B:Like, I appreciate a character who knows who she is, you know, like, you're getting the truth from her.
Speaker B:She never sells herself short.
Speaker B:She knows she deserves better, which is a nice character to see.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Truly talented, but, you know, is assertive and only becomes aggressive when necessary.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Listen, you have to be like, in this industry, as a woman in this.
Speaker C:Industry, know your own worth.
Speaker B:Yeah, she's got to know her own worth.
Speaker B:She's unconventionally attractive and if she heard you say that.
Speaker B:Hi.
Speaker C:Yah, exactly.
Speaker B:She's just attractive.
Speaker A:I was literally about to say hi.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:See, because that's, that's what Miss Piggy teaches you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:See, here, here's the thing.
Speaker C:And, and not to jump ahead of you.
Speaker C:Sky, I am just surprised you have Miss Piggy as number two, because obviously a diva of her statue, a character as renowned as it's famous and as just divalicious should be number one.
Speaker B:I, I, this, and I will cop to this.
Speaker B:This is a completely personal choice.
Speaker B:This is the.
Speaker B:I, my number one is the only one that could be for me.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:It is also objectively correct, but also there's, you know, I hate to admit it, but there might be some personal preference in this.
Speaker B:There might be some personal preference.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah, I do now for sure.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:But anyways, so, yeah, that's why I, I saying I didn't meant to to hijack sky, because I know you're supposed to say you're number one first, but for me, Miss Piggy's number one.
Speaker C:Like that is.
Speaker B:Okay, you didn't want to, but then you just went ahead and.
Speaker C:Well, that's because, look, what do we say we got to do?
Speaker C:We got to argue and you're telling me Miss Piggy's number two.
Speaker C:I, I, I, I had, I could not stand such slander against Miss Piggy.
Speaker C:I, I had to let my voice be known.
Speaker B:Huh?
Speaker C:Miss Piggy is number one.
Speaker C:And while I'm at it, Kermit.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker C:That, wow.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:That green privilege frog Splaining.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:Like when you're younger, you think Kermit, you're like, oh, like.
Speaker C:Like, you know, he's.
Speaker C:He's sort of the leader.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:You know, you have a soft spot for him.
Speaker C:But then when you get older, and especially the way he treats Miss Piggy, you know, she loves him, and what does he do?
Speaker C:Gaslights her.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker C:He does not reciprocate.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker C:Like, who gave him the theater?
Speaker C:Was that nepotism?
Speaker C:I'm pretty sure he.
Speaker C:He got the theater from, like, an uncle or something, you know, so he's a nipple baby.
Speaker A:Okay, first of all, so you're number.
Speaker A:You're yelling the hate for Kermit.
Speaker B:Your real number one choice.
Speaker B:You are using this to backdoor a screen against Kermit.
Speaker A:Yes, and I will not have it.
Speaker C:No, no.
Speaker C:Look, you might not have it, but I am truths about Kermit.
Speaker B:I've got this.
Speaker B:Timothy's personal opinion does not reflect the opinions of anyone else involved in Murphy's Frankie's world.
Speaker B:And legally, we like to absolutely distance ourselves from him.
Speaker C:Wait, hold on.
Speaker C:Someone's knocking at my door.
Speaker C:Oh, look, it's a Disney branded vehicle.
Speaker C:I wonder what that could be.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:Glad we got another brother.
Speaker B:We got a backup.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:Yeah, no, I'm just saying, like, my opinion on Kermit has changed as I've gotten older, and maybe.
Speaker C:And again, maybe Kermit has changed too.
Speaker C:You know, I'm just saying, if we look back at, like, the 70s and 80s, Kermit, you know, not exactly the.
Speaker C:A.
Speaker C:Stellar.
Speaker C:Stellar choices in the decisions he's made both personally and professionally.
Speaker B:Sky and I just sitting here saying nothing.
Speaker B:It's like, you know when you hear the shovel digging the dirt and it keeps going.
Speaker B:Oh, I think I hit you in bedrock.
Speaker B:Oh, he's still going.
Speaker B:I still going.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:I'm just gonna let those opinions sit there.
Speaker B:What.
Speaker B:What more could I say?
Speaker C:All I'm saying is think about it.
Speaker C:Just.
Speaker C:Just think about it.
Speaker C:Watch some of those earlier Muppet shows.
Speaker C:Watch some of the earlier movies.
Speaker A:Can't a frog change?
Speaker C:Oh, no.
Speaker C:I am saying maybe he has, but.
Speaker C:But I think he's got a lot more toning to do therapy.
Speaker A:I think they went to therapy.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Hey, sky, why don't you rinse this bad taste out of our mouth?
Speaker B:What's your number one?
Speaker A:So my number one.
Speaker C:Please say, Kermit, are we going to get worse?
Speaker B:Are we.
Speaker B:Are we digging deeper?
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker B:Let's do it.
Speaker A:My number one muppet.
Speaker C:Look, you all wanted content.
Speaker C:There's some content for you.
Speaker A:All right, I think it's.
Speaker C:That's a 10 second clip that's going to be put on.
Speaker A:No, it's.
Speaker A:I believe this Muppet is under.
Speaker A:Both underrated and slightly mid.
Speaker A:Rated.
Speaker C:Not overrated, not order.
Speaker B:Okay, so rated.
Speaker C:This Muppet is rated, but is rated.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker A:I could.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, I'll do it now.
Speaker A:That would go.
Speaker A:Okay, that's fine.
Speaker B:This internal struggle is fascinating.
Speaker C:Yeah, I mean, like Murphy's Rate, the world could just be sky debating themselves.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, we'll do a bonus episode.
Speaker C:Yeah, actually, it's great because we'll still get paid for our episodes and we just have to sit there and listen to Sky.
Speaker A:Yeah, you're getting paid.
Speaker B:Tim, shut up, man.
Speaker B:I said it'd go Farther.
Speaker B:Listen, listen.
Speaker B:Five bucks don't split great already.
Speaker A:Wait, you're getting 150 and 250.
Speaker C:That's $4.
Speaker B:Sky, shut up.
Speaker B:You're gonna ruin this for me.
Speaker A:I never said I was good at addition.
Speaker A:I can divide like A though.
Speaker C:Okay, that was division five divided by two.
Speaker B:No, no, no, Tim.
Speaker B:You know what's happening here?
Speaker B:They're.
Speaker B:They're side stalling us.
Speaker B:Say it.
Speaker C:What's your number one?
Speaker C:Say it.
Speaker B:Nice try.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:It was actually very good because we did get there.
Speaker A:I was just like.
Speaker A:All right, so my number one Muppet is.
Speaker C:That's still stalling.
Speaker C:No, no, no, no.
Speaker B:This is ridiculous.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:My number one Muppet is Gonzo.
Speaker B:You son of a.
Speaker A:So my number one Muppet, the reason.
Speaker B:Why I just got Skyped.
Speaker C:You knew.
Speaker A:I did.
Speaker B:Now, okay, go ahead and say your half baked reasons in the eye.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:If I said it would go.
Speaker A:That was me being like, you know what?
Speaker A:I'll say my other number one.
Speaker B:But then you didn't.
Speaker A:No, I did.
Speaker A:Because I say Gonzo.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:You had a different number one and you just said this on purpose?
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:That was my internal struggle, boy.
Speaker C:By the way, Sky, I would like you.
Speaker C:I'd like to thank you for.
Speaker C:In the mo.
Speaker C:In the last 90 seconds, you completely flipped.
Speaker C:Who was the villain of this podcast?
Speaker A:I've been watching wrestling for most of my life.
Speaker A:I know how to flip heel.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker C:Wait a minute.
Speaker C:That's Triple H's music.
Speaker B:Okay, well, yeah, you tell me the reason and not just.
Speaker B:Not just to steal my thunder.
Speaker B:You there.
Speaker B:And you tell me 10 reasons.
Speaker A:Because my tie is Janice and Gonzo.
Speaker A:Those are my tie for number one.
Speaker A:And then sometimes if I'm feeling sassy.
Speaker A:Like, Miss Piggy is in there.
Speaker A:Anyways, so Gonzo was a non binary king before a non binary king was like, a thing I even knew about.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:He was like the weirdo.
Speaker A:Kind of the same thing with, like.
Speaker C:Wasn't that literally what was put on his, like, crate in.
Speaker C:Yeah, the great was.
Speaker C:It was a great Muppet caper.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's frog, bear and weirdo.
Speaker A:Weirdo, I think, or whatever.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:And just like, Oscar the Grouch, like, they could just be whatever they wanted to be.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And, like, have a relationship with a chicken.
Speaker A:And like, nobody thought that was weird.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Everyone accepted that this Muppet that's a whatever was having a relationship with a chicken.
Speaker A:And they loved each other.
Speaker A:And you never heard words from the chicken's mouth.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And they just loved each other and it was beautiful.
Speaker A:And he had a weird nose.
Speaker A:But no.
Speaker A:And people were just always like, he could do funny things with them.
Speaker A:So anyways, he was just like a non binary queer icon from the jump.
Speaker B:I mean, that's.
Speaker B:That is true.
Speaker C:I'm.
Speaker C:I'm saving any.
Speaker C:Any feedback because I.
Speaker C:I want to hear Meg do, like.
Speaker C:I want to hear the.
Speaker A:I want to hear the.
Speaker A:The soliloquy.
Speaker A:Soliloquy.
Speaker B:Okay, well, number one is Gonzo.
Speaker B:And, yeah, know what?
Speaker B:Some of that is Sky's reason.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:He is unknowable.
Speaker B:At one point, they said he was an alien, but that's not canon.
Speaker B:Gonzo can be whatever he wishes to be.
Speaker B:He dresses however.
Speaker B:He's probably the snazziest of all the Muppets.
Speaker B:Like, he's always changing his outfit.
Speaker B:Some Muppets are just like, listen, Fozzie, the same bow tie.
Speaker B:But you know what?
Speaker B:That works for him.
Speaker B:It works for him.
Speaker B:We don't want to confuse him.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:He's doing what he has to be doing.
Speaker B:When I think of Charles Dickens, there's a chance I'm seeing Gonzo in a top hat before I think of the actual Charles Dickens 100%.
Speaker C:Which, by the way, I think is the way everyone should think of Charles Dickens.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Apparently they cast him as Charles Dickens because I think, as Brian Henson said, it was the weirdest idea.
Speaker B:Like, they're like, what would be the weirdest Muppet to cast?
Speaker B:And yet he and Rizzo are holiday icons.
Speaker B:Is it their partnership?
Speaker A:Does that mean.
Speaker A:Is ultimate the word ultimate?
Speaker A:Like, the ultimate version of A Christmas Carol in my head is Muppets Christmas Carol?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You can say, like, that's your.
Speaker B:That's your like, that's the.
Speaker B:That's your canon one.
Speaker C:Or your platonic ideal.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:One of the quotes from the Henson Company at one point is, Gonzo is an example of a zany, bombastic appreciation of life.
Speaker B:And I'm like, yeah, he just loves life.
Speaker B:Like, he just loves what he loves.
Speaker B:He is passionate about what he's passionate about.
Speaker B:Whether that be shooting himself out of a cannon or his long term relationship with Camila, which, I mean, has been more stable than Kermit or, Or.
Speaker B:Or and Miss Piggy the entire time.
Speaker A:It's true.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:God.
Speaker B:The rockiest it was is perhaps in one of the.
Speaker B:Not the latest Muppet show, but the one where the TV show and.
Speaker B:And Gonzo and Rizzo and Pepe are.
Speaker B:Are all living together and writing it.
Speaker B:Rizzo and Pepe are a little confused about their couple's yoga.
Speaker B:And it's just Gonzo lifting Camilla up with his feet.
Speaker B:But he doesn't care.
Speaker B:She doesn't care.
Speaker B:That's how their relationship is.
Speaker B:He is always himself.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:Gonzo is always himself.
Speaker B:And there's a.
Speaker B:There's a lesson there to be learned.
Speaker B:And I think almost anyone could see at least a part of themselves in Gonzo.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, I will have to say I.
Speaker C:I am a little disappointed in myself that I should have known Gonzo was going to be your number one.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:Like has been pure and genuine for years.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker C:So shame on me.
Speaker B:But I love that little weirdo.
Speaker B:This little weirdo loves that little weirdo.
Speaker A:I always affiliated my sister with a couple cartoon characters.
Speaker A:Like characters.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Gonzo, Marvin the Martian, and only Marvin the Martian.
Speaker A:Because you would draw it a lot.
Speaker A:And so that I would.
Speaker B:Because it was the 90s, y'all.
Speaker B:There was a lot of Marvin art around.
Speaker C:And you know what you weren't drawing?
Speaker C:You weren't drawing eludium 32 exploding space modulators.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:And then Hitchhiker's Guide.
Speaker A:Like those.
Speaker A:Just like that universe, that's who.
Speaker B:And then Pretty alien Heavy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then the Girl Animaniacs.
Speaker C:Dot.
Speaker B:Oh, Dot.
Speaker B:Why, thank you.
Speaker B:If only I could have that energy.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:I mean, sister, come on.
Speaker C:The fact that they just casually dropped Dana Delaney in their theme song occasionally.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:We had a whole nother episode we could do there.
Speaker B:Okay, so I'm not going down there.
Speaker C:Smells like.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker A:And your brain, too.
Speaker C:Like Maurice lamarche.
Speaker C:Like Pinky in the brain.
Speaker B:Ah, I follow.
Speaker B:I was like, my brain.
Speaker B:I mean, that is a part of me.
Speaker A:We got there.
Speaker B:Capitalized B.
Speaker B:I got you.
Speaker B:All right, so I think that was.
Speaker C:Frozen peas, country goodness, and green penis.
Speaker B:Oh, that's horrible.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker C:Look, there's a French fries.
Speaker B:Look at my beard.
Speaker B:Oh, boy.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:I'd like to remind everyone that the one semester I spent in college, I changed my startup notification from the traditional window sound effect to that sound clip from the critic.
Speaker C:So every time my laptop would start up, anyone in the room would just hear rosebud.
Speaker C:Rosebud.
Speaker C:Frozen peas.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker A:Obsessed.
Speaker B:Okay, Any other last thoughts, honorable mentions, important bits of legal cover that folks feel the need to say?
Speaker C:I will say it was hard keeping Fozzie off the list, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Baroness, Studebaker, Natural environment, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker C:So I just wanted to give him a quick shout out.
Speaker C:Still love you, Fozzie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:A true ally.
Speaker B:One of those recent clips of him.
Speaker B:Like, I went on a website because they said it was for bears.
Speaker B:Turns out it's different kind of bears, but they're having a good time.
Speaker B:Muppets.
Speaker B:Muppets is adorable.
Speaker B:And that's exactly how Fozzie would respond for me.
Speaker B:But I'm glad folks are, you know, enjoying themselves.
Speaker B:I'm like, that's.
Speaker B:That's Fozzie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I was gonna say, if I had any honorable mentions, it would probably be the Electric Mayhem in general, but particularly Janice, because, like, I love her and, like, she's lived a life.
Speaker B:Like, there's a Muppet who's lived the life.
Speaker B:It's Janice.
Speaker B:Like, oh, my God.
Speaker B:And I love, like, the latest.
Speaker B:When they did the Electric Mayhem show on Disney, they had this whole subplot about, like, Janice is always taking care of others, but maybe she needs to take care of herself.
Speaker B:And I was like, for sure.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker B:Plus, again, I like a Muppet that you can't see their eyes.
Speaker C:Like, things are really gonna turn.
Speaker C:What's my.
Speaker C:Once I get my glossies.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I said, I'm not taking off my clothes for you or anybody.
Speaker B:Muppet could just say that line out of nowhere, and you're like, yeah, I bet she had that conversation.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Also, other quick shout out, honorable mention goes to animal.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, the baby animal from that Electric Mayhem show.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, it is just like a fur ball with teeth.
Speaker B:Damn it.
Speaker C:Oh, Again.
Speaker C:Knows who he is.
Speaker C:I mean, also, the fact that they were like.
Speaker C:Like, you get someone like Buddy Rich on the Muppet show who's like, I'm going to drum battle a Muppet.
Speaker C:And again, you know, much like Michael Caine.
Speaker C:He goes on there and he treats him like he is a drum virtuoso and needs to bring his A game.
Speaker A:Michael.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:We cannot get into our Michael and Kane impression of.
Speaker B:We can't.
Speaker C:Michael Kane is up here.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He was only 16 years old.
Speaker B:We're doing Michael Caine.
Speaker B:We're doing Steve Coogan and Rob Bryan doing Michael Kane.
Speaker B:What's wrong with us?
Speaker C:And his voice has come down here.
Speaker B:Let me finish.
Speaker A:Let me finish.
Speaker A:Let me finish.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:I love you all.
Speaker B:Did you have anything else to say?
Speaker A:Nope.
Speaker A:I love you all.
Speaker A:My.
Speaker A:My puppy is screaming.
Speaker B:Oh, you're trying to shut us up.
Speaker B:No, I see what that is.
Speaker B:You see that?
Speaker A:Love.
Speaker B:Anyway.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Thank you everyone, for tuning in.
Speaker B:I guess pushing play for Murphy's Rank the world.
Speaker B:We'll be around next time to argue about things that you don't have to argue about.
Speaker B:But we're siblings.
Speaker B:And that's how we show affection to each other.
Speaker C:Stay tuned for more continued nonsense.
Speaker A:Love you all.
